Tuesday, January 20, 2009

Rasputin

Rasputin- A infamous Russian monk who survived 2 assassination attempts before finally succumbing to the third attempt in which he was poisoned, shot 4 times, beaten and then thrown into a river, the cause of death being drowning, the Monk that would not die.


In 1935 famed sports write Damon Runyon wrote: “In all the history of the boxing game you find no human interest story to compare with the life narrative of James J. Braddock.” Well I would adjust that quote just a little, substituting football for boxing and Kurt Warner for James J. Braddock. Like the famous Monk, no matter how many times left for dead, Warner keeps lunging forward.


We all know the story of his climb from Hy-Vee grocery clerk to NFL quarterback. He worked his way through the back alley in the arena league and NFL Europe. Then through injury wound up the starter and before anyone realized it he was raising the Vince Lombardi Trophy. His career has continued with two different teams and now he has the Cardinals in the Super Bowl. Read that previous sentence again.


It was 1994 and Warner was a practice squad player for the Green Bay Packers. He was cut, his NFL career over before it began. Death 1

After playing 2 seasons in the Arena League, again he couldn’t find his way in the league. Left for dead a 2nd time.

Signing last minute with the Amsterdam Admirals he found himself embroiled in a QB battle with the unknown Jake Delhomme. Warner won the battle and after one season the St. Louis Rams signed him, as the 3rd string QB. Basically left for dead, again, buried on the depth chart with a mediocre franchise.

After all his NFL success with the St Louis Rams, including a Super Bowl title his career appeared over after getting released in favor of the younger Marc Bulger. Again, it appeared a career over as injuries took over his career.

He then signs with the New York Giants and after six turnover filled starts he was replaced by rookie Eli Manning. His finger hurt badly, his performance severely degraded and nobody lining up at his door this was finally it, his career dead, for the last time.

The only problem was someone forgot to tell Kurt Warner. Latching on with the Arizona Cardinals as a backup for Matt Leinart. The problem was Leinart likes chasing tale more than watching film, so Warner beat him out for the starting job. Through the midway point of this season many considered Warner the MVP of the league (as predicted by yours truly in his Outlandish NFL Predictions on the very site). He continued on his winning ways getting his team into the playoffs. And was we all know, once in the playoffs anything can happen, and anything did.

Warner now becomes only the second QB in history to take 2 different teams to the Super Bowl. Now the questions lingers, is he a Hall of Fame player. Well we can check the numbers, while his overall yards and TD numbers wont be up there with the greats because of the amount of years he has played, but when he has played well he is as good as anyone.

3 time Super Bowl QB
3 time pro bowler
2 time All Pro
2 time League MVP
8-2 playoff record
93.8 QB rating (4th all time)

6 comments:

zman said...

He also has a SB MVP award.

I'm really torn on this. When Warner was given a chance to play he often was fantastic. But he was unable to hold off Mark Bulger in St. Louis and Eli Manning in New York, and neither of those guys are particularly fantastic QB's.

If he wins the SB this year then he has to be in. If loses the SB but he plays another year and throws for 20-25 TD's and 3500-4000 yards, he'll be top-25 in TD's and yardage. I guess it would be harder to keep him out then.

Dan Filowitz said...

He'll be a Terrell Davis-like candidate. You can make a strong case for him, because in his best years he was amazing.

However, the Hall of Fame people tend to consider then length of time the person was dominant at their position. Some of those bad years may hurt him.

That said, if the Cardinals do win the Super Bowl and he's a main reason why (and he'd have to be against this Steelers team) then yeah, I think he makes it.

If they lose and he has a good game, I'd say maybe, leaning towards no.

If he plays like Neil O'Donnell, then no.

Which should take nothing away from how amazing his story is, or how good he is when he's playing his best. Those Rams teams were the best offensive teams I've ever seen, in no small part due to him. And taking the Arizona f'ing Cardinals to the Super Bowl - I mean, come on!

zman said...

Terrell Davis should be in the Hall. I could write 500-750 words on this topic. I don't have time to do it justice right now.

My only knock on Warner is that he lost his job twice to guys who aren't that great.

Anonymous said...

The only thing I have to say is that people always talk about, "was he the best at his position at his prime" and as mcuh as hate to admi it, he was. For a four year span he was as good as anybody in the league, 2 MVP's prove that. If he plays another year or two, and puts up the career numbers then I say it is hard to keep him out (as opposed to Davis who does not quite have the career numbers)

The Regulator

Anonymous said...

Unfortunately, the hall is way too political and Warner has no chance due to his overall numbers. Warner is one of the better stories in the history of the NFL. If he played 50 years ago the stories about him would be so embellished people would look at him like Roy Hobbs. If the hall's purpose is to glamorize the game and pass feel good stories from generation to generation, then not only does he belong, he should have a wall dedicated to him. However, the hall has yet to vote Chris Carter in, let alone Davis, so I highly doubt he'll see his day.

-Anonymous Jets Fan

The Bopper said...

...wait...Rasputin...hey, this isnt about Wayne Fontes! I want the last three minutes of my life back.